Hello stimed readers, when I started thinking in this thread I was not sure if the title might be "Discovering Industry: Truth Behind The Scene" or "The End Of All Hope". Recently we had many events, specially in the autosurf scene. It's needed to be said that there is much more things behind a program than most part of investors know. I'd like to dedicate this thread to talk a little about this as well as to show some evidences I have done in other parts of this forum, specifically in the Autosurf section.
What is behind a program
- VPN
First of all when I told here in MMG that user exist1 is in fact Roger from AggeroInvestment somebody came asking how can a person have two accounts in MMG? So I'd like that you read a little about what is a VPN (for those who still dont know).
A virtual private network (VPN) is a computer network in which some of the links between nodes are carried by open connections or virtual circuits in some larger network (e.g., the Internet) as opposed to running across a single private network. The link-layer protocols of the virtual network are said to be tunneled through the larger network. One common application is secure communications through the public Internet, but a VPN need not have explicit security features, such as authentication or content encryption. VPNs, for example, can be used to separate the traffic of different user communities over an underlying network with strong security features.
You may read more in: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPN
With a VPN service you become totally anonymous, further more, when your purchase VPN from a provide you can choose the country you wish.
- Fake documents
Do you think program admins are using their own names while they run their scams? Of course they are not. These admins are using fake documents and consequently fake names. This way they can make verified accounts in AlertPay, SolidTrustPay, StrictPay and anywhere they wish. A very recent example is exist1 that launched AggeroInvesment as Roger, but we will talk about it later.
- Hosting, script and design
This part has no secret, as long as you have money you can purchase the hosting, script and design you wish.
- Monitors and blogs
This is an interesting part, I'm sure you have noticed promoters (monitor admins and bloggers) became a lot of people promotin scammers for making profits. Some of you will tell: "hey, you were a blogger too and promoted scams". I agree, and this is exactly the main reason why I decided to close my blog, it was serving as tool for scammers, like many others out there. For example, CIF (CollectiveInvestmentsForum), run by austin and his team. We will talk about it soon. Admins have been paying monitors to do what? Just lead more clients to them.
The main goal of a monitor is guide the investor, but today they don't care about it, they don't care if they are promoting scams or not. Many of them know that a program is scam but evne this way they promote it. I already was a blog monitor admin and know what I'm talking about. These people just want to see their payment and done. Some of them also use their sites to promote their own scams.
Recently I started some accusations in the forums, specially MMG. I got surprised with the result and I'd like to show to you. Let me divide it in cases.
- Exist1 Case
An old MMG member comes aboard with a new name and a cool program.
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/-t220622.ht...t&p=5280040
After I have publicly accused exist1 that in fact is the same person that administered AggeroInvestment, here is what I got:
In fact I'm not the only one to know it, many people also knew already. I can make a list but I will shorten it and say that owners of most visited blogs of this industry knew, admins of other well known programs knew, a moderator from MMG knew.
The question is: Why you people never told to investors Roger and exist1 are the same person? I guess due convenience, and why you mafaltti didn't tell it before? I preferred to wait the closure because if I have told before many of investors would crucify me and say I killed their program. Now the merge between PremiumAdsClub and AggeroInvestment makes sense, of course, exist1 is an old member of this industry. We can not forget the participation of Gotenks in all this scheme, without him you would be seeing these programs up and doing so good.
- Austin case
Austin and his scam showcase: CIF (CollectiveInvestmentsForum).
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/-t241166.ht...t&p=5279934
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/-t241166.ht...t&p=5279940
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/-t241166.ht...t&p=5279994
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/-t241166.ht...t&p=5280009
After these posts accusating austin I got several messages and PMs from people about the issue. Take a look at some of them:
Do you think that's all? No, I also got a PM from austin saying sorry about the way he spoke to me in Revenue-Investment thread, in this post.
Spreading all these informations was not easy, I got my permission to post suspended by Hula, it would have lasted 3 days but I contacted her and she re-considered. By the way I received some PMs from Hula too like:
Conclusion
My purpose with all this posted here and in other sections of forum is to show people that while you think these people is helping you they are just wishing to scam scam and scam. I wanted to know why you austin, paul, hula etc etc that knew the truth never told us anything? Why do you think that while you are making cash everything is ok? Can't you think in the collective? Can't you think while austin make programs and you help him to promote you are driving people lose more cash? Why do you only think yourself?
exist1 is Roger, many people knew it, nobody never mentioned!
austin is there always running his owns scams and promoting in CIF (CollectiveInvestmentForum), as well as teamworking with other scammers, austin and his scammer gang is making this worst and worst. He is not the only one.
If this post has any affect we will have people that think more before investing, we will have some members that will dissapear because they can't handle with the facts, we will have people thanking me posting it, we will have people mad of me because I posted it. But I don't expect people like exist1 and austin will stop scamming, they will be back with other names.
Good luck everybody, your opnions, comments, posts will be much appreciated by all those who still have some faith.
HERE SOME REPLIES FROM MEMBERS OF MONEYMAKERGROUP.COM, FORUM WHERE I POSTED THIS CONTENT TWICE AND THEIR STAFF DELETED THREAD:
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You are just feeling very, very sour Mafaltti, after JaketheFrog scammed all what you have earned in promoting scams after scams in the past. Stop fooling people that you care! You hate monitors and bloggers before, then joined the flock to be one of them, now you hate them again? Make up your mind moron! Your blog dont even have considerable referrals thats why you sold MPB to another person but you later scammed him after receiving $1,500 upfront payment. Youre in fact another scammer. Get real dude. You earned a lot from helping scam admins get their money out of their processor accounts, you earned a whole lotta money then James Walker stole it all from you! Over $50k isnt it?...you deserve it wanker! Enough of your drama, most people know you are crooked too. You always see the smallest stone in others eyes but you dont see the very big pebble inside your own eyes.
ReplyDeleteGo on delete this!
I will post it whenever Im around so that people will know the stinking truth why youre acting this way!
You are just feeling very, very sour Mafaltti, after JaketheFrog scammed all what you have earned in promoting scams after scams in the past. Stop fooling people that you care! You hate monitors and bloggers before, then joined the flock to be one of them, now you hate them again? Make up your mind moron! Your blog dont even have considerable referrals thats why you sold MPB to another person but you later scammed him after receiving $1,500 upfront payment. Youre in fact another scammer. Get real dude. You earned a lot from helping scam admins get their money out of their processor accounts, you earned a whole lotta money then James Walker stole it all from you! Over $50k isnt it?...you deserve it wanker! Enough of your drama, most people know you are crooked too. You always see the smallest stone in others eyes but you dont see the very big pebble inside your own eyes.
ReplyDeleteGo on delete this!
I will post it whenever Im around so that people will know the stinking truth why youre acting this way!
I will post this in MMG moron!
Dont act like a hero.
You are just one hell of a crazy loser!
You are just feeling very, very sour Mafaltti, after JaketheFrog scammed all what you have earned in promoting scams after scams in the past. Stop fooling people that you care! You hate monitors and bloggers before, then joined the flock to be one of them, now you hate them again? Make up your mind moron! Your blog dont even have considerable referrals thats why you sold MPB to another person but you later scammed him after receiving $1,500 upfront payment. Youre in fact another scammer. Get real dude. You earned a lot from helping scam admins get their money out of their processor accounts, you earned a whole lotta money then James Walker stole it all from you! Over $50k isnt it?...you deserve it wanker! Enough of your drama, most people know you are crooked too. You always see the smallest stone in others eyes but you dont see the very big pebble inside your own eyes.
ReplyDeleteGo on delete this!
I will post it whenever Im around so that people will know the stinking truth why youre acting this way!
I will post this in MMG moron!
Dont act like a hero.
You are just one hell of a crazy loser!
You better stop this foolishness of yours or ill expose all you dealings with scam admins before. :D
What the..?? this people really dont care about others they pretend to help their members (like me) who want a descent income but on behind we were getting ripped, i never had an idea before not until this one admin from a different monitoring site introduce me to an admin to make a layout for his hyip and because of money i agreed anyway i didnt know it was scam, he had a good plan well anyway it just convince me that some monitoring and forum sites are involve in these case, i dont know if they cant control the number of their members or to see if there is a double account or something but this is all about money so i doubted, there were a lot of scams going on lately specially on surf sites, after my bad experience with megalido and frogress (although its just a small amount they have scammed i still have cried, why? not because of money its because i thought my dream will be fulfilled by this convincing admins they have destroyed my hope, killed my dreams and most especially made me hopeless) good thing after few months of agony and being hopeless i still receive my refund from alertpay even though not the exact amount im still happy and until then i never .. i mean i made up my mind i will never ever going back to those forums again and i will never gonna post anything on my blog or promote surfs, online money making, hyips, or GPT's anymore as some of it are all lies, i know there are some legits but because of this scammers and forums who support those scammers we all got ripped and we are all a victim of a big lie... and the legit programs are now affected by this and so i am not gonna besurprised if those legits will close suddenly and became scam too after people run away and leave online money making....
ReplyDeletethanks for this post i will post this fact and truth on my blog. for this i will surely give important announcement and make all of my countrymen be aware and beware of all this lies.
I hope those bloggers wont ever promote big lies.. im sick of it especially those people who recommends programs and then they cant do anything when their referrals got scammed..
that is why way back frogress and megalido time i offered investment loans for my downlines that is to protect them if ever the program get scam and so they got scam and my money were all got scammed but still those people i have helped were thankful but i am ashamed because i introduce those programs to them.
sigh...
thanks alex, you're so brave. now your id on MMG was banned, i'm just curious why MMG ban you ?
ReplyDeleteyeah it's really a shocking info for many people in autosurf world like me...
regards,
bigheadz
http://projectmoneymaker.blogspot.com